Asset Management Meeting with Brown & Caldwell
Date: 2025 08-August 08
Maintenance strategy
Asset management
Vendor: Brown and Caldwell
People
- Anne Kennedy (Brown and Caldwell)
- Rich McGillis (Brown and Caldwell)
- Joshua Balentine (Brown and Caldwell)
- Henry Nakayama
- Don Hudgins
- Clayton Bennett
- Chris Luss
- Derek McElroy
- Robert Dodson
Don et al saw Brown and Caldwell's presentation at the 2025 Water Professionals Conference in Knoxville last week.
Intro
- Key interest: Condition and consequence to inform an R&R plan
Rich McGillis specializes in water and sewer. The regional manager for "utility performance".
Louisville
Louisville, KY had a consent decree to negotiate asset management into their amended CD.
Quality quality and pump stations needs to improve.
Define:
- How to assess their assets
Taking inventory: - Looked at every vertical asset
- five regional plants
- two larger plants
- 290 pump stations
Key questions: - What are the most critical assets?
- What should you spend on in the future?
- What is the process of capturing data to enable you to make better decisions?
There are some legal aspects here. Jargon:
- "CIP"
- "CD"
- "CMMS"
Louisville's big problem
- Labor limited.
- Were not optimizing the visualization of the data
Henry: how did you determine the critical assets?
Anne: consequences, likelihood of failure.
They sure do like Power BI.
"rehab and replacement"
11 months, 50k assets.
Meat and Potatoes
Don: Impressed with wastewater specific approach, rather than just sewers and manholes.
Chris: Yay, less work.
Don: We were impressed with the 20 year spending plan.
- Long lead times have been problematic for us.
- The city should have planning in the CIP area
- We need outside help to put together bid packages
- Inventory all of the assets - does it make sense to coordinate bids
- Enable our own 20 year forward-look
- Use CIP budget rather than plant operating budget
Anne:
- Louisville has to spend a certain amount every year due to their CD
- Operations and engineering shared ideas.
- "Six codes of happiness"
- Each asset has a "happiness code"
CMMS software: IPS : Enterprise Asset Management - IPS ENERGY
Software: Articulate
Our CMMS: Hexagon
Six part naming conventions
Don:
- Primarily we want to be able to write specifications to write bids for things?
- Rather than getting a vendor to give us the specs
- We don't have the personnel to bid properly
- Chris Luss needs help to buy stuff.
- We already have a contract with Stratum
- Inventory of all assets to enable bid packages
- Go through all of our files, help us upload specs to all of our equipment.
Anne:
- Helped to inventory the documents
- Pushed for document scanning to get it into the DMS, and then attached to asset records
- Make it easier to find submittal docs, manuals, etc
Don:
- We are not under a consent decree, so we have more flexibility
Anne: - Black & Veatch is a great company
- We can piece together the best elements to accomplish the goal.
- Condition assessment, engineering study
Don:
- Black & Veatch has focused on the sewer system, not a wholistic review of the treatment plants.
Anne: - Did you like the way they did it?
Joshua:
- Do you need the scope of the fee?
Don: - It needs to be phased
- Robert Dodson needs to decide if he wants to be involved
- Stiles should be first, because Maxson is still under CMAR
Chris: - Vote: Maxson first, hard ball first
Don: - First phase, review current CMMS's
- Is Robert Dodson keeping up with Hexagon?
Robert: - Nope. Lack of personnel to load assets.
- Black & Veatch is still assessing lift stations, replacements etc.
- What are you doing with the plants?
- Currently engaged with Black & Veatch for maintenance and tracking of lift stations.
- Would like to see a 1 to 10 year plan.
Don: - Is Black & Veatch doing this out of the SARP10?
Robert: - Yes
- Calcium aluminate coating in the wet well
- minor replacement as necessary
- Conditions have changed significantly since the project was bid
- In some cases, entire lift stations have had to be rebuild even after they were refurbished
Anne: - Yep, just sitting in a problem. Louisville experienced that.
- Aging data is a problem.
- Data-informed decision making in near-real time (within 6 months)
- Morris Foreman was where the started - it was the worst: Morris Forman Water Quality Treatment Center | MSD
Don:
- We are most interested in electrical, mechanical, instrumentation
- We have an Emerson system DCS, with a SureService plan
- Do you consider pipelines to be an asset?
- Pipe galleries differ from long piping
- An asset is what a maintenance person would touch, rather than inventory
Anne:
- What is an asset? How do you define it?
- Louisville defines it based on a dollar amount, $10k
Don:
- We have a problem with value change, given capitalization and depreciation
- We want to synchronize our list with the City's list
Anne - It's all about an existing agreement for what can be bought without intense review, it if it already in the plan.
- You guys don't have a definition of an asset.
- Components versus parts versus assets versus systems.
- Gatsby 34 definition, $2,500 - this might be too low, because you
- Asset definitions from AWWA, WEF, and others
- What is the hook?
- Maintenance
- investment
- data collection
- decision making
- evolve over time
- start somewhere
- people do adjust their definitions of assets when they recognize something is non-deal
- Over granular or not granular enough
Don:
- CDM did the CMAR upgrade - ASTM formatting for asset management -
- ISO 55001 ISO 55001:2014 - Asset management — Management systems — Requirements - rigid - is it useful for municipalities?
- Excel spreadsheet of nameplate information handed over by CDM Smith
Anne:
- You want to start at Stiles?
Don: - Yes, we want to wait until the dust settles at Maxson.
- Naming conventions
- You may have to work with Stratum
Joshua: - Will this be a professional services contract?
Don: - Yep
- We don't have the budget
- You'll have to sell this to Scott Morgan and Tasha King-Davis
- HVAC's are big problems at both plants.
- We should do intensive maintenance on some items which we usually wait until they break down, and you can make recommendations on the HVAC program
- Louisville has 7,500 assets, we have identified only 500 assets
Don:
- Probes, sensors, points, assets
Questions
Clayton:
- How can we leverage an opportunity like an asset review to improve our integrated databasing for our various systems? CAD, SCADA/DCS, GIS, digital twin, lab testing, EAM
- Answer: What functional requirements do you want?
- Follow-up: Design must be API, modularity
- Don: This is not the primary purpose of this contract
Next Meeting
The Plan
- Teams call early next week, Monday or Tuesday
- Review Hexagon with Krish
- Diane Smith of the contact for the Hexagon system at the Stiles Plant
- Cross referencing naming conventions
- Tuesday Meeting 9:30 AM Central time, August 12th