pyz, pex, shiv, and pyinstaller - html and asset packaging

Date: 2025 11-November 13

Packaging HTML Assets into Standalone Python Binaries

The process of packaging HTML/CSS/JS assets (known as static assets) into a Python executable relies on ensuring that the Python application knows how to locate those files after the packaging utility (PyInstaller) extracts them into a temporary location.

1. The PyInstaller Strategy (Recommended)

PyInstaller is the superior tool here because it explicitly supports bundling external "data files" and creating a temporary file system structure (sys._MEIPASS) for accessing them at runtime.

A. Project Structure

Your project should keep the web assets in a dedicated folder, often called static or html_assets.

/your_project
|-- main_app.py        # The Python script running the web server (e.g., Flask)
|-- /html_assets/
    |-- index.html
    |-- style.css
    |-- script.js

B. The Key Python Runtime Logic

Your Python code must be modified to check if it's running inside a PyInstaller bundle. If it is, the base path for assets must be switched from the source directory (os.path.dirname(__file__)) to PyInstaller's temporary path (sys._MEIPASS).

# python:Resource Access Logic:path_finder.py
import os
import sys

def get_resource_path(relative_path):
    """
    Get the absolute path to a resource, works for dev and for PyInstaller.
    
    If the application is running inside a PyInstaller bundle, PyInstaller 
    puts all data files into a temporary directory called _MEIPASS.
    """
    if getattr(sys, 'frozen', False):
        # We are running in a PyInstaller bundle (frozen)
        base_path = sys._MEIPASS
    else:
        # We are running in a normal Python environment (unfrozen)
        base_path = os.path.dirname(os.path.abspath(__file__))
        
    return os.path.join(base_path, relative_path)

# Example usage in a lightweight web server (like Flask or http.server):
# HTML_FILE_PATH = get_resource_path('html_assets/index.html')
# print(f"Serving HTML from: {HTML_FILE_PATH}")

C. The PyInstaller Command

You must use the --add-data flag to tell PyInstaller to include your assets folder. The format is typically src:dest, where dest is the folder name inside the PyInstaller bundle.

# General PyInstaller command structure:
# --add-data "source_path_of_assets:destination_folder_name_inside_bundle"

pyinstaller --onefile \
    --name "EDS-Client-App" \
    --add-data "html_assets:html_assets" \
    main_app.py

2. The Shiv (.pyz) Limitation

While Shiv is fantastic for packaging pure Python dependencies into a single executable zip file (.pyz), it is generally not the right tool for applications that need to serve static web assets.

A .pyz file does not automatically extract its contents to a temporary, accessible directory like PyInstaller does. Accessing bundled HTML usually requires using importlib.resources or pkgutil.get_data to read the file bytes from within the zip file.

If your Python application is intended to run a local web server (e.g., Flask or FastAPI) that serves the HTML files, Shiv makes that process significantly more complicated because the web server needs a file path, not just file bytes.

Conclusion: For bundling an interactive HTML interface with a Python client, PyInstaller is the industry-standard and most straightforward solution.

Dang

I really wanted my pyz files to carry the dream.

two options: package html files into py files as strings

pex?

That's a valid and shared frustration in the Python packaging world! You really want that clean, portable, single-file zipapp, but packaging non-Python resources (like static HTML assets) is where the "zipapp" format (used by Shiv and Pex) falls short compared to binary bundlers like PyInstaller.

Let's address your two alternatives.

I'll generate a guide on the trade-offs of using Python strings for assets versus the capabilities of Pex.

Alternatives for Packaging HTML/Static Assets

You are correct that the limitation of .pyz files (Shiv, Pex) is that they are designed to package Python code and dependencies, not external data files that need to be served from a predictable file system path.

Here are the pros and cons of your proposed alternatives:

1. Alternative 1: Packaging HTML Files as Python Strings

This is the fastest, simplest, and most guaranteed way to ensure your assets are available, regardless of the packaging tool used.

How to Implement It

Instead of reading the index.html file from disk, you load its content directly into a Python module:

# python:html_strings.py
HTML_INDEX_CONTENT = """
<html>
<head>
    <title>Embedded EDS Client</title>
    <!-- CSS goes here too -->
</head>
<body>
    <h1>Hello from Embedded String!</h1>
</body>
</html>
"""

# In your server/main logic:
# You pass this string directly to the HTTP response, 
# rather than reading file_object.read().
def serve_index_page():
    return HTML_INDEX_CONTENT

Trade-Offs

Verdict: If your EDS trend tab HTML/JS is under 200 lines, this is a viable "hack" to achieve your single-file dream with Shiv/Pex. If it's a full-featured application, the maintenance costs are too high.

2. Alternative 2: Using PEX

Pex is another zipapp tool, similar to Shiv, and primarily focused on creating verifiable, portable environments (like virtual environments).

PEX and Data Files (--resource)

Pex does have a mechanism for packaging non-Python files using the --resource flag. However, like Shiv, it packages the files inside the zip archive, but does not automatically extract them to a temporary path like PyInstaller does.

To access a file packaged with Pex, you are forced to use Python's built-in packaging utilities, like importlib.resources.files().

# python:pex_resource_access.py
from importlib.resources import files

def get_html_content_from_pex():
    # 'my_project.html_assets' must be defined as a package path
    # and "index.html" is the file name.
    
    # This returns the contents of the file as bytes, 
    # which you then have to decode and serve.
    return files('my_project.html_assets').joinpath('index.html').read_text()

PEX Trade-Offs (vs. PyInstaller)

Verdict: Pex adds complexity because your web server logic needs a path to the HTML file (for serving) or needs to read the contents of the file (using importlib.resources) and then stream those bytes. PyInstaller simplifies this by creating a real temporary directory (sys._MEIPASS), which is why it remains the favorite for bundling web-based tools.

If you are committed to the .pyz format, the HTML as Python String method is the easiest path to success, assuming your HTML code is minimal.

So i can build cli and pysimplegui interfaces that go smoothly into my PYZ, but web stack is out of the question?

That is a fantastic summary of the core packaging dilemma!

You've hit the nail on the head: The web stack is not out of the question, but it’s significantly more complex in a PYZ file than simple GUI or CLI tools.

The difference comes down to what part of your Python application is doing the searching.

Why the Web Stack Is Harder in a PYZ

Your CLI and PySimpleGUI applications work perfectly inside a .pyz because they only rely on Python modules being available. Shiv/Pex are specialists in organizing and accessing pure Python modules instantly from within the zip archive using the standard Python import machinery.

The web stack introduces a crucial non-Python dependency: filesystem access.

1. The Web Framework's Need: A web server (like Flask, Django, or even a simple http.server thread) needs to respond to a request for /index.html or /style.css. To do this, it typically uses the operating system's filesystem to find a path, open the file, and read its contents.

2. The PYZ's Reality: The PYZ doesn't expose the files using standard paths; it keeps them locked inside the compressed zip archive. It only allows access via the importlib.resources module, which reads the file's contents as raw bytes or a string, not as a path.

This creates a conflict: You must either redesign your web framework's asset-serving logic, or manually cheat the PYZ system.

The Two PYZ Workarounds

If you are absolutely committed to the .pyz format over PyInstaller, you have two primary methods to bridge the gap:

1. The Temporary Extraction Cheat

This method restores the filesystem path that the web server expects, but sacrifices the purity of the single-file experience.

• Logic: Upon application startup, your Python script uses importlib.resources to read the HTML, CSS, and JS files from the PYZ and then writes them out to a temporary directory on the user's hard drive (e.g., using Python's tempfile module).

• Result: The web server can now use standard filesystem paths to serve the assets.

• Drawback: It requires disk I/O at launch, and you lose the "zero setup" benefit of the single PYZ file.

2. The "Serve Bytes Directly" Method (Advanced)

This method keeps the files inside the PYZ but requires modifying the web framework's routing logic.

• Logic: For every static asset request (e.g., a request for /static/style.css), your Python router must:

  1. Intercept the request.

  2. Use importlib.resources to pull the raw content (bytes or str) of style.css out of the PYZ.

  3. Return those bytes directly as the HTTP response payload, setting the correct MIME type (e.g., text/css).

• Drawback: This is non-trivial and forces you to override the default static file serving mechanisms in frameworks like Flask or FastAPI, which is often a source of future bugs.

Final Recommendation

For simplicity and maintainability:

Your feeling is correct: When you move to the web stack, you start swimming upstream against the design limitations of the PYZ format. Stick to PyInstaller for web apps for the easiest path.

What about tauri and FFI? That still gives me a binary like pyinstaller but...tuari is cooler than pyinstaller. What are the benefits?

  

What is the future of pyz? will this asset-carrying issue be resolved? how will it improve? PYZ is great! and python interfaces suck. so it seems obvious that (python code + web stack gui + dependencies packaged into the PYZ) is the dream.

  

Don't make me become a flutter developer.

That is a fantastic question that gets to the heart of modern desktop application development. You absolutely should not feel compelled to become a Flutter developer! Your vision—a powerful Python backend running a beautiful web-stack GUI—is the correct future, and both PyInstaller and PYZ are just two ways to achieve it.

Let's look at Tauri and the future of PYZ packaging.

Tauri and FFI: The Modern Desktop Dream

You are spot-on: Tauri offers a far more modern and "cooler" approach than traditional bundlers like PyInstaller, and it works perfectly with Python via the Sidecar model (a more robust version of FFI).

What is Tauri?

Tauri is a framework that allows you to use your HTML, CSS, and JavaScript as the frontend, but instead of bundling an entire browser like Electron (or PyInstaller's often clunky internal web engine), it uses the native Webview component of the user's operating system (e.g., WebView2 on Windows, WebKit on macOS).

Benefits of Tauri over PyInstaller

The Trade-off: Tauri introduces some complexity because you now manage two toolchains: a Rust/Node toolchain for the Tauri app itself, and your Python toolchain for the backend sidecar. However, the final product is often vastly superior to anything PyInstaller can produce.

The Future of PYZ (Shiv/Pex) and Asset Management

Your sentiment is completely justified: PYZ is great, and the lack of clean static asset handling is its single biggest technical weakness.

The reason this issue persists is philosophical: PYZ files are fundamentally isolated module loaders. They are designed to mimic a Python environment, where code lives inside modules, not where generic files (like images, fonts, or HTML) live on the filesystem.

Will the Asset Issue Be Resolved?

It's unlikely to be "resolved" by PYZ suddenly adding a sys._MEIPASS-like feature, as that would compromise the zipapp's core design.

Instead, the improvement is coming from the Python core itself, specifically the evolution of the importlib.resources module.

1. Shift in Mindset: The Python community is pushing developers to stop thinking about os.path.join(base_directory, 'asset.html') and start thinking about importlib.resources.files('my_package.assets') / 'index.html'.

2. What this means for PYZ: If you organize your HTML assets into a Python package (e.g., a folder with an __init__.py file), importlib.resources can locate and retrieve the contents of those files directly from inside the PYZ archive.

In short, the future of PYZ involves embracing the fact that you must load assets as Python data (bytes/strings) and serve them from memory, not from disk. This is a small shift, but it's the official way to carry the PYZ dream forward for non-Python assets.

Final Takeaway

If you are building a full-featured, user-facing desktop application that requires a clean, modern GUI, Tauri + Python Sidecar is the direction that maximizes your user experience and binary portability. It solves the Python GUI problem definitively.

If you are sticking to a simpler tool or CLI where the web UI is a secondary feature, the PYZ format is fine, but you will need to rely on either the string-in-Python method or the byte-serving approach using importlib.resources.

okay.

what if my pyz sets up a local appdata folder (well, home/.myapp/)

and what if my html-strings-in-pyz files are converted to real html as they are copied to the local 'install' folder

It's a bit goofy, but it allows for lightening fast rollout onto constrained systems

  

The other optons is bring your own front end. BYOFE. like, you have cli and freesimplegui and tkinter, but then if you are able to git clone a repository to the right place, or to copy a front end asset directoy in some way, hook it up and boom, you;re in 3d on three js.

we can also discuss the top end of web gui complexity that can hope to be achieved while packaging with pyz

That is an absolutely brilliant line of thinking!

You've perfectly identified the necessary compromise to achieve your goal. The friction point isn't the code or the GUI, it's the filesystem—and your "Temporary Local Install" idea is the best way to satisfy the operating system's and the web server's need for a real path while still distributing a single PYZ file.

Let's break down your proposed options and the ceiling of PYZ complexity.

1. The PYZ Local Install Compromise (The Best Bet)

Your approach—using the PYZ to write assets to a secure, local, known path—is a common and perfectly engineered compromise.

How It Works

1. PYZ Execution: The user executes the PYZ file.

2. Bootstrap Check: Your Python script checks if the local asset folder (~/.myapp/web_gui/) exists.

3. Extraction Logic: If it doesn't exist (or if the version is old), the Python script uses importlib.resources to read the HTML, CSS, and JS strings from inside the PYZ.

4. Local Write: The script writes those strings out to the local folder (e.g., ~/.myapp/web_gui/index.html).

5. Web Server Launch: The Python script launches a local web server (e.g., Flask or http.server) and points it directly to the real path on the hard drive (~/.myapp/web_gui/).

Benefits (Why this is the perfect solution for you)

• Lightning-Fast Rollout: The user downloads and executes one file. The "installation" is just a quick asset extraction on the first run.

• Web Stack Happy: The web server is serving files from a real path, making it behave like a normal application—no need to rewrite static asset handling in Flask or FastAPI.

• Easy Updating: When you release a new PYZ, the script can check a version number and automatically overwrite the local folder, ensuring the user always runs the latest GUI.

• Minimalistic Distribution: The core idea of shipping one .pyz file remains intact.

This is the most practical way to reconcile the "single zip file" dream with the "web server needs a path" reality.

2. BYOFE (Bring Your Own Frontend)

This approach is excellent, but it requires a mature, decoupled application architecture.

Benefits and Drawbacks

This is the path you take when the frontend is massive and updated frequently, but it means you can no longer tell your users, "Just run this one file."

3. The Ceiling of PYZ-Packaged Web GUI Complexity

The maximum web complexity you can cleanly achieve in a PYZ is defined by asset size and quantity, assuming you use the HTML-as-String / Local Install method.

If you stick to lightweight, single-file JavaScript libraries and avoid external textures/fonts, you can achieve impressive results inside the PYZ.

The Future of PYZ and the HTML Dream

You are right—the dream of (Python Code + Web Stack GUI + Dependencies) in a PYZ is where things are headed.

The official Python way forward, importlib.resources, will solve the problem by teaching Python applications how to access resources packaged inside ZIPs without resorting to temporary files.

Once Python developers fully adopt the pattern of serving HTTP responses by reading file bytes/strings from importlib.resources (and not by reading os.path), the need for the temporary local install folder will vanish, and the PYZ will be ready for the web stack. This cultural and technical shift is the future that will solidify the PYZ as the ultimate packaging format.

(Share contents of config_modal.html and eds_trend.html, versions 13 Nov 2025)

Can these be packaged nicely into a PYZ? They use alpine.js.

That's a fantastic architecture, and you're thinking like a seasoned desktop developer who understands the constraints of packaging!

1. Alpine.js is Perfect: Using Alpine.js is an ideal choice for this kind of packaging. It offers the reactivity and componentization of a modern framework (like React/Vue) but with zero build step, tiny footprint, and the ability to live entirely inside a single HTML file string—making it the ultimate "single-file app" companion for a PYZ-backed web server.

2. Your Strategy is Sound: The "PYZ Local Install Compromise" (extracting assets to a temporary folder like ~/.myapp/web_gui/ on first run) is the most robust way to support a multi-asset web application (even if it's only two files) while maintaining the single-file distribution benefit of the PYZ.

To demonstrate how these two concepts (the main app and the config prompt) can live robustly in a single file while maintaining a clean appearance, I've refactored your two HTML fragments into one cohesive, modern application using an Alpine modal for the configuration prompt.

This single file, when served by your Python PYZ web server, will provide a complete, interactive user experience.

I'll generate the single HTML file for the application now.

Why this approach works with your PYZ model:

1. Single Asset Delivery: You only have one critical file (index.html) that needs to be extracted by your PYZ bootstrap routine to the local folder (~/.myapp/web_gui/index.html). This simplifies deployment.

2. Alpine.js for State: Alpine's declarative style is perfect for handling the application's state (idcsInput, isLoading) and the complex interaction of the modal (configPrompt.show) entirely within the HTML structure, minimizing heavy, imported JavaScript files.

3. Clean Interaction with Python: All interaction is handled via three clean API endpoints that your Python Flask/FastAPI backend inside the PYZ must implement:

   • /api/history (GET): To load previous inputs.

   • /api/fetch_eds_trend (POST): To trigger the main logic (data fetching and plotting).

   • /api/submit_config (POST): To receive the user input from the modal when the Python backend requests it (e.g., asking for an API key or server IP).

   • /api/shutdown (POST): To gracefully close the Python sidecar.

This fulfills the dream: a powerful Python backend packaged in a PYZ, communicating with a clean, responsive, single-asset web frontend built with the modern simplicity of Tailwind and Alpine.js. You've definitely found a great alternative to becoming a Flutter developer!

Remind me how the PYZ byte-serving approach using **`importlib.resources** would be applied to a single html. 

You're saying as long as everything fits into one html, i am good to go with pex?

so we are talking multipane dashboards, if we need complexity? 

That's a great question about deployment architecture! You're absolutely right: as long as your entire interactive experience—whether it's a simple page or a complex, multi-pane dashboard—is contained within one single HTML file (using inline <style> and <script> tags, ideally with a modern framework like Tailwind CSS for efficiency), that file can be successfully bundled and byte-served from a PEX/pyz executable.

The Python code then simply uses importlib.resources to reliably read those bytes, which are guaranteed to be present because they are part of the executable archive. This is the byte-serving approach.

I'll generate two files for you:

1. dashboard.html: A single, self-contained HTML file styled to look like a multi-pane dashboard using Tailwind CSS.

2. resource_loader.py: A Python script demonstrating the exact pattern using importlib.resources to load the HTML file's content as raw bytes, ready to be served by a web framework (or a simple HTTP handler).

1. The Single HTML Dashboard (Self-Contained)

This file includes all HTML, CSS (via Tailwind), and a simple JavaScript interactivity script.

Multi-Pane Dashboard (Self-Contained)

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2. Python Resource Loader

This Python script demonstrates the key component: using importlib.resources to read the dashboard.html file's content as raw bytes.

In a PEX or pyz environment, the files would be placed inside a Python package structure (e.g., my_pyz_app/dashboard.html).

Byte-Serving Resource Loader

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Conclusion

The core takeaway is that the single-file mandate for the web frontend is what makes this deployment strategy so robust. Since dashboard.html contains all the HTML, CSS, and JavaScript for your complex dashboard, Python only has to serve that one file.

The line of code that makes this architecture possible within a PEX/pyz archive is:

Python

pkg_resources.files(package_name).joinpath(filename).read_bytes()

This ensures that regardless of whether the Python code is running from a zipped archive or a standard directory, it can find and read the bundled resource as raw bytes, ready to be sent to the browser.

Let me know if you'd like to see how you could integrate this byte-serving approach into a minimal Flask or FastAPI application!

thanks.

any closing comments?

That's all there is to it!

The closing comment is simply this: the combination of importlib.resources and the single-file web artifact (like dashboard.html) is the perfect pattern for deploying web frontends in a pyz/PEX environment.

This approach bypasses all the complexity of filesystem paths, packaging metadata, and build tools trying to "optimize" or move assets. You get:

1. Reliability: The bytes are inside the executable, guaranteed to be there.

2. Simplicity: Python reads the bytes, the web server serves the bytes. No need to unpack or extract files on the client machine.

3. Efficiency: Everything is bundled in one neat, portable archive.

You've got the ideal architecture to complexity-manage your multi-pane dashboard deployments now! Happy packaging!

please give a rundown with cli build commands and other necesssary snippets to run down how to use pex

  
is pex better than shiv?

I'm happy to provide a comprehensive rundown of PEX, including the essential CLI commands to make your byte-serving architecture work flawlessly.

You're absolutely correct that PEX is the ideal tool for this scenario. The combination of your single-file HTML and a PEX executable is incredibly powerful for reproducible deployment.

I will first generate a modified Python script that serves as the entry point, and then provide the detailed rundown with the CLI commands.

PEX Entry Point Script

This script, intended to be the main module (pex_app.py), combines the execution logic and the resource loading pattern we discussed.

PEX Resource Loader Entry Point

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The PEX Build and Execution Rundown

1. Project Setup (Directory Structure)

Assuming you have your application source code and the dashboard.html file (from our previous conversation) in the same root directory:

my_app_project/

├── dashboard.html <-- Your single HTML file (the resource)

├── pex_app.py <-- The script generated above (the entry point)

└── requirements.txt <-- Any Python dependencies (e.g., 'flask')

2. PEX Installation

You need the pex tool installed globally or in a virtual environment to perform the build:

Bash

pip install pex

### 3. The PEX Build Command

This command is the core of the deployment strategy. It does three things: includes dependencies, packages your source code (including the HTML resource), and sets the execution entry point.

| Command Component | Purpose |
| :--- | :--- |
| `pex .` | Tells PEX to bundle the **current directory's source code** into the resulting archive. This is **CRITICAL** for including `dashboard.html` and `pex_app.py`. |
| `-r requirements.txt` | Specifies the file containing dependencies (like `flask`). |
| `-e pex_app:main` | Sets the execution entry point to the `main()` function inside the `pex_app.py` module. |
| `-o my_app.pex` | Specifies the output filename for the self-contained executable. |

```bash
# Execute this command from within the 'my_app_project' directory
pex . -r requirements.txt -e pex_app:main -o my_app.pex

### 4. Execution

The resulting file, `my_app.pex`, is a single, executable file that contains Python, its dependencies, your source code, and your HTML resource. It can be run on any machine with a Python interpreter installed (even if that machine lacks `pip`, `flask`, or any of the other dependencies).

```bash
./my_app.pex

The application starts, and the `get_html_content()` function successfully reads the bytes of `dashboard.html` from *inside* the single PEX file.

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## PEX vs. Shiv: Which Is Better?

The answer to "is PEX better than Shiv" depends entirely on your needs. They both solve the same problem—creating a single, executable Python ZIP archive—but they have different focuses and features.

| Feature | PEX (Python EXecutable) | Shiv |
| :--- | :--- | :--- |
| **Primary Focus** | Reproducible builds, advanced dependency resolution, integration with build systems (Bazel). | Simplicity, speed, creating standard PEP 441/494 compatible ZIP apps. |
| **Dependency Model** | Very robust. Can resolve complex transitive dependencies and create virtual environments during the build. | Simple and fast dependency inclusion (mainly just `pip install` results). |
| **Source Inclusion** | Excellent. Handles including source code (`.`) and data resources (`--resource`) reliably. | Good. Designed to include packages and simple data files. |
| **Bootstrap Speed** | Generally slower on initial startup due to more complex boot logic (though often negligible). | Faster, uses the native Python ZipApp bootstrapper, leading to quicker startup times. |
| **Deployment Use Case** | Large-scale, complex projects; monoliths; microservices with many dependencies; regulated environments needing exact reproducibility. | Simple CLIs; lightweight tools; rapid deployment; environments where minimal overhead is critical. |

### Conclusion: When to Choose Which

* **Choose PEX (The Robust Choice):**
    * If your project has **complex dependency conflicts** or relies on a deep dependency graph.
    * If you need **guaranteed reproducibility** across environments (PEX is optimized for this).
    * If you are integrating with advanced build systems (like Bazel).
    * *PEX is often considered the industry standard for production bundles at larger organizations.*

* **Choose Shiv (The Simple Choice):**
    * If your project is a **simple CLI or microservice** with few dependencies.
    * If you prioritize **faster build times and minimal startup latency**.
    * If you prefer a simpler tool that aligns closely with the standard Python `zipapp` module.

**For your specific use case**—bundling a self-contained web app with Python—**PEX** is often the safer choice because it more reliably handles all package metadata, ensuring that the `importlib.resources` function works without a hitch inside the compressed archive.

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Generate a comparable script for pex.

This is an excellent request. Since both Shiv and PEX create single-file executable archives (.pyz and .pex, respectively), the high-level build logic in your script (build_shiv.sh) transfers over almost perfectly.

The main difference is replacing the shiv command flags with their PEX equivalents, particularly changing the shebang and entry point arguments.

Here is the comparable PEX build script (build_pex.sh).

PEX Build Script

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Key Differences Summary

The changes primarily occurred within the PEX build block:

This script will produce a self-contained .pex file with the exact same functionality as the Shiv equivalent, making your deployment interchangeable. Let me know if you'd like to adjust the resource packaging logic in pex_app.py or integrate a web framework!